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Erin's avatar

I almost feel like A-Listers are their own category apart from Legends and Superstars, because they often inhabit specialized or rarified little worlds that large subsets of people enjoy, but they haven't necessarily infiltrated the monoculture. More than movie stars, I'm thinking of athletes, classical musicians, fashion designers, and artists who are gigantic in some parts of the world and only really famous in others.

The first example I can think of is Kylie Minogue, who is like GOD-tier famous in Oz, and in the States, she's still a very, very famous person with a few hits, but she's not on the same level. I would personally say that she's A-List on every continent, but in her home country she's worshipped. She's waaaaay more than merely A-List, just like I feel Madonna surpasses that label by a stretch.

And I think the definition largely hinges on generational perception. And maybe some admitted self-centeredness. My A-Listers are people like Julia, Angie, Salma, Sandra, Uma - i.e., all of the Gen-Xers who've aged (or not, in Salma's case) alongside me. :-)

But then there are Legends, and that's another category. Julie Andrews, Madonna, Mick Jagger, and Stevie Wonder are the first ones to come to mind. I think Beyonce hit that point about a decade ago. People who are *that* famous are in their own pantheon (Princess Di, if she were still alive, would be there). It their career longevity, but also the fact that I feel most people around the world with sporadic access to media outlets could nod their head in recognition, and maybe even name them.

ANYHOO, I wouldn't *personally* call Jenna Ortega an A-Lister, but that's because she hasn't saturated enough of my pop culture-rabid world yet. Two or three years ago, I wouldn't have said that about Timothee Chalamet, but I'll sure as shit say it today. Zendaya? Welcome to a lifetime of superstardom, chief.

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I'm so happy to see Jenny Nicholson mentioned here!! I got sucked into her channel during the lockdowns, and I felt it was a smaller niche corner of the internet that no one I know ever talks about. She is one of the few people out there who can LOVE something and still objectively critique it, while still being balanced. I was subscribed to her Patreon for a few years, and followed her journey with the Star Wars hotel pretty closely -- she underplays it but she is actually a GIANT Start Wars fan. She was on a YouTube series called the Millennial Falcon... and she WORKED at Disney parks for several years.

If you're looking for an entry point, Dear Evan Hasen and the Hallmark channel video are 10/10. Edited to add -- so is the Bronycon video! A deep dive into the My Little Pony fandom, super fascinating and very very engaging.

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