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The section on Emma Stone and Austin Butler and their parents is interesting, and had me re-read the section of the Vogue interview with Zendaya where she talked about the being the 'breadwinner' for her family, and how she wished she could have gone to school. Zendaya has clearly avoided the classic child star problems, but it made me wonder about her relationship with her parents.

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I think I made a comment about this in the post on Zendaya’s Vogue feature but it reminded so much of things Keke Palmer has said. Both child stars who avoided the usual chaos we link to child stars and have come out on the other side seemingly “normal” and level headed. They both seem to have good relationships with their parents (who as far as we know weren’t monsters) but now as adults are looking back on the weight of being the breadwinner, losing their childhood, realizing their paths were set so early on etc. I wonder what types of conversations that triggers with their parents now.

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16 Carriages reminded me of young celebrity breadwinners.

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Interesting perspective on that song!

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I think it was Ketri or Rachel who shared an old article about T Swift and there was mention of the many 18 wheelers plus the parents. Beyonce seemed to be singing about the pressure of the pressure.

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Lainey don’t leave me hanging on the seventh room. Please do a deep dive on who you think is currently ‘in’. Also, who has been downgraded.

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Thank you for the movie theatre sound discussion!!! I have been saying this for what feels like 10 year (which garners an eye roll from my partner lol)

When I saw the 2nd LOTR movie, about 1/2 in something happened and the movie stopped. In my memory the film burnt but I might have retroactively made that up. In any case no one at the theatre knew how to set it up to play from where we left off so they STARTED IT BACK FROM THE BEGINNING!!!!! 😭😭😭

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I jumped the gun posting about People magazine in the daily chat earlier! Should have saved my comment for here. Anyway, agreed, the photo looks ridiculous and flattened like everyone is seriously a cardboard cutout. I hadn’t thought about it in reference to KP’s photoshop gaffe but their explainer article is interesting from that perspective!

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This was such a fascinating read! Learned a lot, thank you for sharing about movie theatre sound, fashion deals and child stars! I need to watch Near and Far—sounds and looks incredible!

The People cover looks comically hilarious! Lastly, I agree—why the FUCK isn’t Andra Day getting more work?

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The Hollywood Complex was really disturbing to see some of the most untalented children with the most delusional parents who were willing to shell out a lot of money or even join Scientology (and shell out a lot of money). The 2 kids that seemed to have the best chance was the very pretty girl who went back home after a year and the blond kid who was a talented actor and even though he never became famous is still working in small roles and BTS. Most of the others had horrible stage parents that were just trying to live out their own completely delusional dreams

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Vanessa Hudgens has also been on Broadway in the revival of Gigi which was never going to work because try selling the story of a child being groomed to become a sex worker to young people nowadays. You. Can't. Although I maintain that The Night They Invented Champagne is a classically great musical ditty.

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Given that deepfakes are only going to get better (we really are not putting that toothpaste back in the tube), I appetite People’s disclaimer, however glaringly obvious from a million miles away that it was a composite photo. I hope it’s the standard at least for legit media. The airbrushing is low key hilarious and reminds me of whatever in the filter is happening on Palm Royale, which I am being forced to watch against my will. Seeing the de-aged faces and filter blur takes me right out of anything the show is trying to do. It’s super weird to my eye. Yet another reason I love older movies as I wrote in another comments section—real faces and real teeth! We may have crossed the Rubicon on both in modern day Hollywood.

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this is what I like about British crime dramas - normal looking people!!

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The uncanny valley has been really obvious to me lately. Seeing Kristen Wiig in SNL , I wasn’t even sure it was here at first look

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The stories about moving hairlines, the teeth work done on Clark Gable, etc. They were getting work before hitting the camera. I was looking at Lauren Sanchez's skin on her arms in comparison to whatever she's had done to her face. Are people tucking everything? A singer's new butt was so obviously surgically created that I couldn't understand why she chose that model. People should tweak whatever they want, but I am curious to find out what they see that we cannot.

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Yes definitely—Marilyn Monroe had a nose job at the very least and Rita Hayworth had her widow’s peak electrolyzed off. It was definitely happening back in the day but people still looked more “real” than now. That said, seeing yourself in 4HD is a horror show that highlights every pore and wrinkle so I can absolutely see how that self consciousness would lead to procedures.

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Rita Hayworth was the name I couldn't remember. My memory kept offering Ava Gardner, but she doesn't have Spanish/Latine heritage, to my knowledge, so I drew a blank. That hairline thing stuck with me among other things she went through to "make it". You're spot on about looking real in the past. Networks also give feedback that send people to the surgeon. Watching Real Housewives characters (these people are not real) morph over seasons is a show on it's own. It's perplexing how "real" is not the goal, but it's not my business. My business is to try not to furrow my brow and not to stare.

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*appreciate* not appetite. damn autocorrect!

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Finally got around to the mailbag after days of hosting following by days of intensive taxes. Thank you for the great answer to my question Sarah. And as usual, a great mailbag!

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I'm behind on Duana's show. It's still exciting to know more!

Maybe the theatre will have more actors while TV is saturated? Andra Day might have to find a good play or musical. Vanessa Hudgens is very talented.

Can someone tell me who's sitting at the table with Michael J. Fox? I'm squinting. The heavy photoshopping is obscuring her identity. The covers are Spring at Hallmark movie channel.

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I think it’s Nicole Kidman but I agree she looks odd

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Amazing mailbag this week! Hoping for more amazing original NF content.

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Any explanation for why I'm no longer receiving emails for new mailbags? My notification settings are set up properly. 😞

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👏👏

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Never did I ever think he’d be a fashion guy and then he was on the cover of GQ all David Bowie’d out so 🤷‍♀️

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